tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post116482260760642725..comments2024-03-12T04:51:46.468-05:00Comments on Blue Gal: I am not making this up. Alabama License Plates (part 2)Fran / Blue Galhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-77646002115393143402011-01-25T12:49:37.220-06:002011-01-25T12:49:37.220-06:00You can have a "God Bless America" bumpe...You can have a "God Bless America" bumpersticker on your car and leave the state agency out of it. You don't seem to get that my state tax dollars are funding Alabama jingoism.<br /><br />I have a divinity school degree, Rhonda, and I know both the Constitution guarantee of separation of Church and State INCLUDING Article VI. I've also read the treaty of Tripoli and many of the Supreme Court cases which are based on these documents. There is a WALL. Two hundred years of legal precedent say so. <br /><br />Yeah I also understand it's a goddamn license plate and Alabama is enslaved to the theocratic majority of its citizens. That doesn't mean I or the courts have to go along. <br /><br />This post is old, and further debate is not going to change anyone's mind here. We're done.Fran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-60261321128343346902011-01-25T12:13:01.739-06:002011-01-25T12:13:01.739-06:00Fran its funny you say that. I just moved to Alaba...Fran its funny you say that. I just moved to Alabama, purchased a new vehicle and I was looking for where to place the stickers on the plate when I stumbled upon your blog. I was very upset by what I read. <br />Yes, I did choose the God Bless America plate. Why you might wonder. Because I am VERY patriotic and I believe in what our forefathers wanted for this country. When Thomas Jefferson coined the phrase, "wall of separation of church and state", what he meant was we are all free to practice whatever religion we choose and the state shall not interfere. The Constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." That means that any religion cannot ever become a state enforced religion. Simply put, we are free to practice whatever religion we choose and the government can never force a particular religion upon us. There is nothing stating that religion cannot interfere with the state. <br />Learn your history; Christianity is nothing but a culmination of many religions and ANY religion is nothing but a code of conduct. Our forefathers were Believers who instilled their ethics and morals, learned from religion, in this country. That code of conduct gave us what we have today, a Democratic Republic, a government for the people, ran by the people. You take that code of conduct out and what do you have?? Communism, socialism, dictatorships and so on. Instead, we have freedoms afforded to us and people have died and are still dying to allow us those freedoms. You think this Global War on Terrorism has nothing to do with religion?? Learn your history and think again. History tells us that those Islamist extremists will never stop until they bring us down, take over and all of us “Infidels” are forced to convert over to their version of Islam. Now that would completely go against the Constitution of the United States. Why do you think they call it Jihad? <br /><br />The funny thing is, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Kabbalah and so on, it’s all the same God, just a matter of linguistics. For the atheists or non-monotheistic believers out there, you have a choice to use whatever license plate you wish. But those who choose that plate do so for reasons that extend far beyond religion. The terms, “God Bless America” and “In God We Trust” run so much deeper and so I will proudly display my “God Bless America” license plate on my car because I have that choice.Rhondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577330072579928586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-24195448589965383492011-01-24T23:48:05.896-06:002011-01-24T23:48:05.896-06:00Rhonda I don't know what possessed you to post...Rhonda I don't know what possessed you to post a comment on a post from 2006, but thanks for that.<br /><br />The problem is not what 'PEOPLE' want to do with their freedom of religion. It's what the state does with promoting one religion over another. I have plenty of religious bumperstickers on my car. But I say, keep religion, ALL religion, off of license plates. They're state sponsored, and God does not need the state's endorsement, nor do taxpayers need to pay for such shenanigans.Fran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-21861881239617798962011-01-24T23:27:06.418-06:002011-01-24T23:27:06.418-06:00All you people are just crazy! I mean, jeez! All o...All you people are just crazy! I mean, jeez! All of you being "offended" by someone else's belief and practices is creating nothing more than intolerances and that turns into nothing but hate. To the atheists wanting a secular plate, well you have one. It has the words Sweet Home Alabama on it. I mean really what else do you need?? Oh wait, how about "Please BLANK, Bless America". There, is that one better for you? Our forefathers must be turning over in there graves right about now. They had a plan for this country and they way we are heading, this is definatley not part of that plan.<br /><br />I am not practicing any religion nor do I believe in one more than the other and I could care less if someone else does. If that is what they need, then good for them. If they want to practice Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Wiccan, Paganism, Buddhism or whatever, its all the same to me. And I don't get why people are always so offended by what someone else believes in. I mean seriously, why are you so offended by it? Its just a license plate and if you don't want it, there is nothing saying you have to use that one.Rhondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577330072579928586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-19337818841007276792009-02-15T10:44:00.000-06:002009-02-15T10:44:00.000-06:00Why do you people even move to the South? You know...Why do you people even move to the South? You know you would be so much happier up North, living among like-minded people. Why would you ever be here in the South?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-32988906177133747722008-12-07T19:12:00.000-06:002008-12-07T19:12:00.000-06:00No you don't, Josh, I moved out. Back to the Grea...No you don't, Josh, I moved out. Back to the Great Midwest. We've got wingnuts here, but they don't run the legislature.Fran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-13512538252028213672008-12-04T14:45:00.000-06:002008-12-04T14:45:00.000-06:00Somehow I got here from searching for registering ...Somehow I got here from searching for registering my car in AL (it has TN tags on it right now).<BR/><BR/>I guess most of you guys are waiting for the "I'm an uptight asshole that spends too much time finding something to have a problem with" tag. I think they'll be out next year. Jeez, let people have whatever keeps them going. <BR/><BR/>And if you feel you're intellectually superior to certain notions that are common in the South...well, no one made you live here. But of course, we have to put up with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-67911521497246600662008-10-02T14:10:00.000-05:002008-10-02T14:10:00.000-05:00So the first thing you do after boldly proclaiming...So the first thing you do after boldly proclaiming you're a Christian is to purposefully take the Lord's name in vain. I'm so convinced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-48305650362437505862008-05-26T07:25:00.000-05:002008-05-26T07:25:00.000-05:00I packed my bags and left yesterday (May 26 08) an...I packed my bags and left yesterday (May 26 08) anon. <BR/><BR/>I am interested in the popularity of this post where folks are posting comments months later. I assume this is some writing assignment?Fran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-31812338733885974622008-05-25T15:54:00.000-05:002008-05-25T15:54:00.000-05:00Yes, it's supposed to be a choice, but I don't kno...Yes, it's <I>supposed</I> to be a choice, but I don't know if that is always the case. A friend of mine recently moved to Alabama, and went to our local license office to get a new tag for his truck. He was handed the "God Bless America" tag like it was the standard, the one and only version, no questions. He didn't know there was another option. That's what I'm afraid of, either it becomes the unofficial default (another option is never offered), OR the state determines they are going to drop the stars tag due to the high popularity of the God Bless America tag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-80909171651960434812008-05-25T13:57:00.000-05:002008-05-25T13:57:00.000-05:00alright people. the latest posts are correct: you...alright people. the latest posts are correct: you have a choice of plates to put on your car here in alabama. some are free, some require an additional fee. i don't really care what your license plates states; i'm more interested in what you personally say and do in your life as a christian, muslim, atheist, or whatever. get on something to really get all hot and bothered about, like poverty, hunger, crime, domestic violence, etc.<BR/><BR/>and for all you 'transplanted yankees', as you call yourself, if you don't like the way we do things in the south, shut the fuck up, back your bags, and move back to whatever northern state from whence you came. i'm tired of your bitching and complaining about how things are more fundamentalist in the south, how we are more narrow minded, how our state governments and leaders are redneck and backwards, blah blah blah. yall drive like shit anyway, you're not friendly when someone like myself says hello to you in shops or schools, and if we southerners liked the way your nothern states ran things, we would do it here, too.<BR/><BR/>and finally, let me just state as a highly educated alabamian (4 college degrees including a PhD in microbiology), i've never seen as much racial discrimination as i have when i've been up north (ny, vt, nh, dc, ri). if that's how 'christians' act up north, i'm glad i'm agnostic. and no, the 'god bless america' does not bother me in any way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-86598521654896713742008-05-15T07:59:00.000-05:002008-05-15T07:59:00.000-05:00I'm not a religious person at all, and I dont find...I'm not a religious person at all, and I dont find this offensive. I think those that are offended need to stop being overly sensitive and wasting your time over something so trivial. <BR/><BR/>I am a veteran and I do think the "nuked Vet" one is stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-55677402357547166602008-04-11T13:01:00.000-05:002008-04-11T13:01:00.000-05:00Maybe Alabama should make another plate with Rev. ...Maybe Alabama should make another plate with Rev. Jeremiah Wright's picture on it with the words along the bottom: "God <B>DAMN</B> America".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-22214944770669227652007-12-13T17:54:00.000-06:002007-12-13T17:54:00.000-06:00I recently read you comments concerning the licens...I recently read you comments concerning the license plate from Alabama that states "god Bless America" and do not understand why you find it so offense. I do not see how you can say you are a christian and then print profanity after making that comment. Also, If you read the original constitution you will not see where it states that church and state should be seperated. Seperation of church and state was a comment penned by thomas Jefferson and supported by the supreme court. You probably also are against an amendment banning the american flagAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-86352187242964356252007-12-05T18:43:00.000-06:002007-12-05T18:43:00.000-06:00Just to clarify, the "God Bless America" tag is no...Just to clarify, the "God Bless America" tag is not just the government trying to push state sponsored religion. It is supposed to be a tribute to the firemen and policemen who lost their lives on 9/11. It is 100% voluntary and not the standard tag, even though it is no extra charge. If you want it on your car, get it, if you don't, then don't get it. Why is it your business what someone choses to put on their license plate? We can personalize our tags any way we want, but far be it from the state to give us an option to show our support of this country. By the way, if you haven't noticed, "In God We Trust" is printed on our money, we say "one nation under God" in our pledge, and "God Bless America" is a patriotic song sung not just in church. This country was founded on religion whether some people chose to think about that or not. I am in no way a religious zealot, but get your facts straight before you start talking about things. Here is an article about the plates: http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=5391383<BR/><BR/>http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=5391383.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-24295662782557975742007-11-23T22:20:00.000-06:002007-11-23T22:20:00.000-06:00I see nothing wrong with the plates. Of course, i...I see nothing wrong with the plates. Of course, if you are one of the many people who become hypersensitive at seeing religious references, then you will have a problem with the plate. Of course, that's your problem, which in turn is none of my concern, nor will I make it my concern.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, it is not a STANDARD PLATE. It is a DISTINCTIVE PLATE that, unlike others, has no extra fee attached to it. That is the reason why it is so popular. That, and the current standard plate design is probably the ugliest out of all the 50 states :^)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-22862642272843358712007-09-23T09:33:00.000-05:002007-09-23T09:33:00.000-05:00I prefer my good old 1gxxxxF plate. As for the W s...I prefer my good old 1gxxxxF plate. As for the W stickers, I have a plan to get those blue dot stickers and plaster the remaining buggers. And I think we need a plate with Vulcan on it more than a stupid flag and a cntroversial message. We need the GBA tags like we need a hole in the headAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-48477464085342032352007-09-01T15:49:00.000-05:002007-09-01T15:49:00.000-05:00I found your blog interesting and I agree where yo...I found your blog interesting and I agree where you are coming from. We have the same plate in Indiana and I also feel that it is politically divisive and religious in nature--but for a different reason. In my state, there is a "choice" of the God we Trust plate, or regular license plates. Its a way for the republican faithful to label themselves for free on their cars. I would actually prefer if all cars were forced to have "god we trust" like on our dollar bills. At least that way the message becomes secular again--by having people choose a message (and priviledging the God we Trust message by offering it for free over other specialty plates) it becomes religious -- in my opinion of course.<BR/><BR/>Keep blogging! ...Dratz<BR/>dratzy.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-46216009530130478632007-06-01T23:11:00.000-05:002007-06-01T23:11:00.000-05:00I stumbled across this page while googling for 'li...I stumbled across this page while googling for 'license plates-religious conflict'. Here in Indiana, the state (in its infinite wisdom) recently decided to issue a 'In God We Trust' license plate as a standard option. While all other special plates require a fee here, this one is offered as an alternative to the standard plate without any extra cost.<BR/><BR/>Needless to say, I'm a bit annoyed. When will they start handing out the 'In Yahweh We Trust', 'In Satan We Trust', 'In Allah We Trust', 'In Brahma We Trust', 'In Buddha We Trust', 'In Zeus We Trust', 'In the Morrigan We Trust', 'In Quetzlcoatl We Trust', 'In Horus We Trust', 'In Odin We Trust', and all the other license plates for *every other god and goddess worshipped by every person in this state*.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-52672317553416026522007-05-27T11:10:00.000-05:002007-05-27T11:10:00.000-05:00I'm from Birmingham. I don't find these tags offe...I'm from Birmingham. I don't find these tags offensive per se, but the political message behind them I find deplorable. The first time I saw one, my reaction was there goes a stupid right-wing fundie/bigot. When I found out it was the standard tag, I got angry. I choose the UAB tag, eventhough it cost extra. If the right wingers still support the right wing agenda and their insane leaders, i.e. bush, cheney, rove, mccain etc, after they've all but destroyed our democracy and military, they're all beyond reason and hope of being rehabilitated. They can all go to hell! Unfortunately we have to go along for the ride these igits have forced upon thinking Americans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-7121906942216517472007-05-10T05:21:00.000-05:002007-05-10T05:21:00.000-05:00thank god someone else had a fit about this, too. ...thank god someone else had a fit about this, too. i saw one like a week ago and i thought it was from some other state, but i looked closer and it was an alabama plate. later on that week i saw more and more. i thought, you've got to be kidding me. i called my boyfriend freaking out. i thought they were going to make us have that tag, not give us a choice. either way, that whole thing makes me want to vomit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-87518803995910150672007-05-09T09:46:00.000-05:002007-05-09T09:46:00.000-05:00It's a choice. Choose the plate or don't. You do...It's a choice. Choose the plate or don't. You don't have to take it.<BR/><BR/>God has been mentioned in the country since the beginning. Why do you think so many historical documents and monuments have God mentioned somewhere?<BR/><BR/>I see it as patriotic, not religious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-52091786035708865682007-05-03T15:01:00.000-05:002007-05-03T15:01:00.000-05:00Same thing in Indiana - lovely blue plate with "In...Same thing in Indiana - lovely blue plate with "In God We Trust" taking up 1/3 of the space. I refer to the drivers as 'blue plate special people'. Adding fuel to the debate, the ACLU filed suit because the State waives the $15 fee affinity plate fee. I expect to see them everywhere now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-41055698882296960942007-03-03T12:35:00.000-06:002007-03-03T12:35:00.000-06:00Nope ...Indiana Too .."In God We Trust" blazed on ...Nope ...Indiana Too ..<BR/>"In God We Trust" blazed on a flag background ...presently this red state is governated by Bushs' boy mitch daniels, a shrimp of a leprechan masquerading as a real human ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8983386.post-91748794421280081042007-02-25T13:40:00.000-06:002007-02-25T13:40:00.000-06:00I don't know if you noticed either but the "God Bl...I don't know if you noticed either but the "God Bless America" tag (unless I missed something) is the only standard tag that does NOT allow custom lettering. Sometimes this state, I swear...SF2K4https://www.blogger.com/profile/10077129084937929446noreply@blogger.com